Debrief Transcript : Episode 4x12

 

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
heya

IPN-T says: says:
YYEAH

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
OMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IPN-T says: says:
I KNOOOWWWWWW

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
can you believe the look on his face?
Heller: Michelle Dessler. Do you know her?
Tony: (gulp. choke) I used to be married to her.

IPN-T says: says:
fuck I know

IPN-T says: says:
it was so incredible... SEXY michelle walks in all sleek-haired and stern-faced

IPN-T says: says:
tony all in grubs gulping as he sees her

IPN-T says: says:
dear almeida that was good

IPN-T says: says:
gawd i can't wait till their first words

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i know

IPN-T says: says:
and i love how they didn't really further the plot much

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i love how she walks in and she is like this vision of perfection

IPN-T says: says:
i KNOW

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
tony sees her and suddenly it is like no time at all has passed

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
you just know they are getting back together

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
but i am excited to see all the pain they will go through before that happens

IPN-T says: says:
i can just imagine. tony is here completely undermined... no-one really wants to respect his new authority, he's all grubby and everything, michelle is, like you say, the girl on top

IPN-T says: says:
and exactly

IPN-T says: says:
seeing all that happens before FHTMAIII will be SO awesome

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
well, it's natural that no one there respects his authority, because no one there knows him. all they know is the nstory of how he went to prison

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
oh FHTMA 3 will be the hottest ever

IPN-T says: says:
fucking EH

IPN-T says: says:
i know

IPN-T says: says:
can you even stand the wait?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
except edgar

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
edgar is all about tony

IPN-T says: says:
lol, tony knew how to get in good with Edgar

IPN-T says: says:
and i think tony knew right off the bat that he needed edgar on his side

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
tony was so awesome this episode

IPN-T says: says:
tony was god this ep

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
erin's daughter dies and erin falls apart, and tony sees his chance to make a power play

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
he feels like shit about it, but what choice has he got?

IPN-T says: says:
i loved his soft humility and the understanding in his voice, yet how he firmly held onto his authority

IPN-T says: says:
like when he said to curtis he doesn't need to prove his position

IPN-T says: says:
cuz he already has it

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
yeah, it was so great when curtis is all like "you want to establish position" and tony is just like :whatever dude, i don;t have to establish shit. i already have position"

IPN-T says: says:
ya i know... and in the middle of all that, tony found time to be understanding and say "i'll be gone and i know you hate me yadda yadda, BUT"

IPN-T says: says:
i ust love how tony wasn't cocky at all, and how soft his voice got with Driscoll

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
the empty, destroyed tony was never really tony, just like the empty shell of jack at the beginning of s2 isn;t really jack. they just needed some crazy reason to find themselves again

IPN-T says: says:
ya exactly

IPN-T says: says:
i was so amazed tony was advertising himself to heller

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
yeah, i liked it when tony wa slike "i'm just here to support you, so get back to work"

IPN-T says: says:
like tony was now truly believing in himself again

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
was so true

IPN-T says: says:
he was the reluctant hero before

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
for sure. i think that the whole convo between he and jack about "coming back to life" really hit home

IPN-T says: says:
ya i think so

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
suddenly it becamed clear that he was dead inside and suddenly he had a reason to live again

IPN-T says: says:
dude, i cna't believe how on the money you and matt were from thevery beginning with tony

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
jack still believed in him, jack had no pity for him

IPN-T says: says:
cuz he's the MAN

IPN-T says: says:
dude you're so right

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
and tony saw his once chance to get his life back

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
when erin needed to step down, tony saw his chance

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
and he made his play

IPN-T says: says:
i wonder if he actually believes he's not gonna stay on at CTU

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i'm not sure what he believes at this point. but it's pretty clear that he's decided he wants his life back

IPN-T says: says:
yup. i hope he finds a new shirt, lol

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
lol

IPN-T says: says:
cuz he's the man now

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i dunno, i'm kinda into casual tony

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
how's he gonna get a new shirt? jack doesn't even have one to lend him

IPN-T says: says:
lol, me too.. but not grubby. that shirt is SO needing a laundering

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
he'll have to suck up to curtis

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
dude, i need a shirt

IPN-T says: says:
hahaha

IPN-T says: says:
you know what i thought was cool?

IPN-T says: says:
such a little part of the ep but still

IPN-T says: says:
the part where tony and jack were chatting

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i KNOWWW

IPN-T says: says:
as you can tell by my moniker

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i was just gonna say that

IPN-T says: says:
hahah

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
it was such an hommage to the crazy internet fans

IPN-T says: says:
I KNOW I KNOW

IPN-T says: says:
i thought i was crazy for thinking that!

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
not at all

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
was awesome

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
typing frantically to communicate before the whole thing exploded

IPN-T says: says:
lol

IPN-T says: says:
hee hee

IPN-T says: says:
PRAISE ALMEIDA 24 IS AWESOME AGAIN

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
you are totally riught about this being a non-plot episode, except for the stuff about mclennan-forster and the EMP

IPN-T says: says:
ya but that was to keep the pace

IPN-T says: says:
this was all about establishing character

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
there were a few scenes i really enjoyed, particularly the one between driscoll and heller

IPN-T says: says:
DUDE

IPN-T says: says:
that was probab;y the most intimate scene in 24 in a long time

IPN-T says: says:
it was so human

IPN-T says: says:
so real

IPN-T says: says:
i think the only scene that compares is the scene between tony and michelle when she tells him she's negative for the virus

IPN-T says: says:
in terms of intimacy and warmth

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i was thinking about how erin and dina had somewhat parallel struggles. and even though dina was "evil" and erin was "good", it was dina who was able to save her son because she put him ahead of her duty to her cause

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
and erin lost her daughter because she could not

IPN-T says: says:
for sure

IPN-T says: says:
good call

IPN-T says: says:
again playing with the grey area between good/bad, duty/family

IPN-T says: says:
and mixing it all up

IPN-T says: says:
what is virtue? what is nobility?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
like in way, you kind of think erin is despicable for leaving her insane daughter to rot in the clinic for hours and hours

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
but you also feel for her, because what choice did she have?

IPN-T says: says:
exactly

IPN-T says: says:
and Dina was in a similar position of no choice

IPN-T says: says:
and torn loyalties

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i also thought it was very telling that erin did not get upset at the doctors or blame the clinic staff for what happened. i suppose when you have a family member who is severely mentally ill, you are always half prepared for the possibility that they could committ suicide

IPN-T says: says:
but i can stay for another five or ten

IPN-T says: says:
ya exactly

IPN-T says: says:
and i think she was partly blaming herself, too

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
of course she was

IPN-T says: says:
she was so invested in her daughter

IPN-T says: says:
i thought her struggle this ep was so skillful and wonderfully played

IPN-T says: says:
i loved watching it

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
it was. alberta watson is a wonderful actress, and she will be missed, though not too much since we now have michelle and tony, and meaning to the story once again

IPN-T says: says:
I KNOWWW

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i am looking fwd to seeing the first chat between jack and michelle too

IPN-T says: says:
oh for sure. sounds like jack has at least been in contact with her, since he knows about her and her career path and why they broke up

IPN-T says: says:
do you think tony or michelle was incontact with him during that time?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
oh, as matt and i speculated, i am certain jack and michelle remained good friends

IPN-T says: says:
have you talked to matt yet about last night's ep?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
they went through a lot together, not only in s2 and s3, but after s3, i'm sure michelle leans on jack a lot

IPN-T says: says:
yup

IPN-T says: says:
i'm speculating on how chloe will come back into the picture. oh, and i LOVE the Manwar (is that his name?) music

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
marwan

IPN-T says: says:
that marwan

IPN-T says: says:
those violins

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
it's obvious jack can get anybody their job back as long as heller is in charge

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
if he can get tony his job back, he can surely get chloe hers

IPN-T says: says:
yup, i'm thinking about edgar being part of the plea

IPN-T says: says:
like him needing her to do some huge computer shit

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
oh fuck yeah

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i love how michelle is the new chappelle

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
when she walks in, she looks all pissed off and badass

IPN-T says: says:
and it's chloe and edgar frantically clacking away and ordering the whole office down

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
surrounded by her minions

IPN-T says: says:
DUDE

IPN-T says: says:
that would be so hot!

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i think the writers flipping around the position of power re t/m will be gold

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
suddenly it's m with all the power

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
power within the agency and the power to take tony back or not

IPN-T says: says:
i know.. cuz no matter what michelle has the final word here

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
cuz it's pretty obvious he wants her back. you could see it in his eyes the minute she walke din

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
now that he;s decided he wants his life back, she's part of that life

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
this is his chance

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
and even though michelle may be hardened now, she still loves him

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
it's so obvious

IPN-T says: says:
man, i can't wait

IPN-T says: says:
i want to see it so badly

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
well, 6 more days

IPN-T says: says:
i know

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
soulmates are soulmates

IPN-T says: says:
yup. can't mess with perfection

IPN-T says: says:
what do you think of the jack love triangle being so similar to the s1 jack love triangle?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
except in reverse

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
this time jack=nina

IPN-T says: says:
do you think it's a copout or just a further exploration?

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
and audrey=jack

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
no, i don't think it's a copoutr

IPN-T says: says:
jack=nina, hehehehe

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i think it shows that jack has reached a level of wisdom and maturity and serenity

IPN-T says: says:
i think so too

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
he knows he can't control audrey. he can trust in their relationship and hope happiness finds him

IPN-T says: says:
and allowing audrey all the sway, al the decision

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
but if it doesn't he will move on

IPN-T says: says:
yup

IPN-T says: says:
he's not getting into immature head-butting with paul

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
of course not

IPN-T says: says:
i was thinking about those pages of gobbledigook paul is protecting all night last night

IPN-T says: says:
like, how on earth will anyone be able to decipher those?

IPN-T says: says:
i guess paul can

IPN-T says: says:
if he survives this

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
i didn't get that impression

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
paul was able to find the encrypted file on marwan's computer

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
but that doesn't mean paul can break the encryption

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
marwan used his own encryption

IPN-T says: says:
ya for sure

IPN-T says: says:
so they'd have to get marwan

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
or chloe

IPN-T says: says:
unless edgar is some kind of cryptologist

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
chloe is the only one who could break that encryption

IPN-T says: says:
ya

IPN-T says: says:
there you go

IPN-T says: says:
i was thinking just that as you said it

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
or milo

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
BRING BACK MILO

IPN-T says: says:
i don't know. i think they're past Milo

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
of course they are

IPN-T says: says:
lol

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
matt and i will never let our hope for milo's return die

IPN-T says: says:
we should send some cashews to the writers

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
lol

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
the beer in the cubs mug was fucking priceless

IPN-T says: says:
i will never get over that

IPN-T says: says:
how much airtime that mug got

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
that was some symbolic shit

IPN-T says: says:
dude i know

IPN-T says: says:
it was so great

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
you've never seen the audio commentary for s2, have you?

IPN-T says: says:
nope

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
apparently, carlos and the director decided that the cubs mug should be destroyed during the CTU bombing

IPN-T says: says:
i do remember that story though

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
it was throw off a balcony and into the explosion

Kiki Dessler, CTU Division - Now The Girl's On Top says:
but it survived

IPN-T says: says:
HAHAHA

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