Debrief Transcript : Episode 4x13

 

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
that was a golden episode, kasia

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yes it was

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
oma. everything was amazing.

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
there is too much to discuss.

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
how many times did the dessler-almeida voices get husky? how many times did the eyes linger? the heartbeats quicken?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
it was FHTMA kindling

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack rocked ass, we had an hommage to Auda, we have an opening for Chloe

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
Sarah was finally jettisoned. i loved michelle's decisiveness there

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
showed in vivd colour how overly emotional and unfit driscoll was at the end

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
how much she was manpiulated

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i have to say... wasn' the pettiness of sarah's tirade so incredibly garish now that the season has ascended t this level?

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
oh yeah, she deserved to get thrown out on her ass

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
totally

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i think it's funny how the writer's are just like "we made a mistake with all these crappy characters. let's just axe them all"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and curtis is way more useful as a sidekick

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
lol

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
suddenly everything wonderful about the show is returning and the junk is being jettisoned

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and her dismissal is an opening for chloe

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
edgar will feel overwhelmed and think of her

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
as tony regains his stature

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and didn't you think those arabic brothers were a bit of a tribute to Auda?

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
they were completely a tribute to auda

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and i have to say. the stuff going on between michelle and tony is so bloody awesome. they both sem to be on the verge of tears whenever they speak to each other

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and likje there's only a thin membrane keeping them from running to each other in a flurry and totally combusting

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and all those lingering, shameless looks... those brave acknowlegements of their love

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and dude, it was so hot how tony said he'd give michelle his opinion even if she didn't want to hear it

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i could see her quicken

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i dunno, there's didn;t seem to be too much love there on michelle's side until the end. she was a pretty cold hearted bitch for most of the episode

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
dude! there was so much more there than that though!

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
like, she was masking her love for him, she was pushing it down with her fury

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
she was mad, but she was holding onto the anger like a lid on a boiling pot

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
she missed tony through the whole thng

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
the part where tony gave her the codes

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and the camera shot their hands nearly touching

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
dude that was tense

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah that was good

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
lol, Audrey, little miss matchmaker

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i was so glad she didn't talk to tony about michelle after she's talked to michelle about tony

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
it almost looked like he would but she was cool

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
the best scene was at the end, when tony offers to resign so michelle can do her job without being distracted by him

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
omg i know

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
in season 3, he always held back any emotion

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
but didn't he want to go because he was feeling like shit and seeing her was tearing him up?

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
this time, he had nothing to lose, so he was just totally honest with her

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
well, yeah, he said that too in not so many words

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
when she aske dhim to stay, clearly ti was about more than the job

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
oh yeah totally

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i'm just amazed at the depth in tony's voice this whole season

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's so multidimensional and tender and rich

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
gabe is nursing... one sec

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
for the first time, he has no inferiority or entitlement complex

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
nope. and there's also no reason to dupe anyone, convince anyone, play a part, earn authority, nothing

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's purely tony

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
raw

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
real

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
totally essential

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and knowing his motive, purpose and feelings

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
the old tony, pre-prison, would have been like "fuck off" if someone told him to do something as mundane as look up auxiliary terrorists while jack and pau were in danger

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
but he swallowed his pride

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
he offered to resign only because he coudln;t stand seeing michelle act like she hated him

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
didn't you just love how hard it was for him to do that?

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah, you could SEE it stick in his throat

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
when he says "level 3? i used to have a 6" he was almost crying, like that was more of an insult than anything, her demeaning nhim like that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i fiucking know. dude. i have to say... what with me naturally always focusing on acting more than anything else, that was one amazing moment

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
michelle was fuckin cold, but i also understand her reasons. i've done it myself so many times, played the whole passive aggressive thing, being deliberately mean, cold, curt with people to let them know i'm pissed and try to get them to give me a reaction

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
lol

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
really?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
not YOU

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
anyway, if it has only been 6 months since they signed the divorce papers, there is no way michelle is over him anyway

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
oh dude i know

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
fuck. it was so obvious the whole time

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i also thought it was funny how audrey is like "i didn;t tell her you wer elibving with someone, if that's what you mean"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
lol

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i like Audrey a lot

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i loved her scene with her dad where she talked about her reaction to jack

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
everything with her is really solid

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
she's got a great, consistent command of the roe

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
role

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah, that scene was very gratifying for me as well because in the past i have discussed a lot with both you and matt the idea that the ruthless dark heart is part of jack, the part of him that can torture people, the part that loved nina despite himself, etc etc

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
so now she has this commando boyfriend, and this altruistic, heroic martyr ex-boyfriend who totally redeemed himself

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
omg the whole "more comfortable in hell" converation was like tony/jack/AIG-urbation

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup. in fact, that could have been taken word for word out of one of our debriefs

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
not saying it was, but it could have been

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
we've talked about that many times

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
tony just verbalized it now

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i was going to say the exact same thing

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
open, direct confirmation of all the shit weve talked about and you've written poems about for the last three years

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
but i also have to say i think audrey was wrong in insinuating tony was talking more asbout himself than jack

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
right there on the screen coming out of tony's mouth

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
it's pretty obvious tony is not more comfortable in hell

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
he's fucking miserable in it

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think tony is more comfortable fighting hell, triumphing over it

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
cuz he's god, you know

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack is about walking through it

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
exactly

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
flirting with it

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
jack is the human element

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
using its rules to beat it

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
who is tempted by the darkness

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
you just know they're gona drag out FHTMA three for as long as possible

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
t/m better end up together in the end, because they represent the ray of hope

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
the series has a pretty desolate tone on almost every front

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i would like to see that arc end with some hope

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
the idea that love can save you

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
dude, tony and michelle represent the burning, desperate, tenacious, necessary fire of redeeming love and humanity amongst the darkest onslaughts

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i could not have said ti better myself

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
that run like a little river through everyone somewhere... the fuel that keeps people going. so they WILL be together again

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
it's thoroughly inconceivable that michelle could be happier without tony now than she was with him before prison. it's just that for a long time, the man she loved was lost and she's not sure that she can trust he has been found again

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think she's breathlessly on the precipice of trusting right now

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
however, when they had their last convo of the episode, i think she realized that he really has, as jack said, "come back to life"

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i thought that turn of phrase jack used was really appropriate

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and how quickly she got there is testimony to how strong their love is

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think you're right

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
esp in light of the whole idea of god, etc

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
lol

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
AIG, dude.

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
oh and one other big thing i was thinking that i forgot to mention in the memo

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
the way jack pushed tony so hard to come back to CTU and try to get his career back and stuff

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yes, jack wanted tony's helpm in securing powell and the arazes

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
but in a way, i think jack also wanted tony back in CTU, so he could have someone there who would always intrinsically know, no matter what happened, what jack would want and be expecting him to do

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack needed his brother back in a place where

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ya

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i was with you on that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
they're an organism

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
even though jack and driscoll made peace, she could never be that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
nope. and only tony would have known about the firefight like that. dude. the brotherhood... i loved all the "i told you so" looks barely masked in that whole unfolding

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah as soon as michelle overruled tony's idea of how to proceed, i said to myself "i cannot wait until the firefight happens and she sees he was right"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
like, jack and tony operate as one. and they augment each other... they magnify each other. they're completely powerful together

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
who is she to question to brotherhood?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i was asking WORD FOR WORD that question for fifteen monutes!

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i even muttered it under my breath and ben rolled his eyes, lol

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
LOL

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
dude, you may think there's distance between us, but you're right there with me whenever 24 is on

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i love how this season has been a massive tribute to the brotherhood

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
jack and tony all over the place verbalizing their connection

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
" the one person i can trust"

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
" the one person he knew would come through for him"

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
how about that preclock

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
DUUUDDEE

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i was noticing it too!

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
finally!

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
matt and i said 4 or 5 weeks ago that keeler is behind the whole thing

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
we've all been saying that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
since ep 1, really

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
us 3 have, yeah

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and i maintain that keeler's villainous sleaziness is going to be shot down in a blaze of glory by our knight of virtue, palmer

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's in a fucking airplane

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's going to PLUMMET

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
cannot wait to see palmer.

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i love how we didn't really know how the federal element was going to emerge

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
but i'm so happy they made it slowly boil to the top

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
instead of having it be the inital thrust

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
it's like, the climax of s1 with palmer dumping sherry.. the heat the federal elemnt attained at the end of s1, was unmatched in s2 and s3... ESP s3... and i'm excited to see the feds be really integral and gritty and crazy-good TV this season

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
not that CTU isn't federal. i just mean goevernment

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
this is really a season about resurrection all around

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
tony and palmer rising from the ashes

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack descending into the fire again to prod the other two into life

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i am so glad that tony and michelle are back in play

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know i know

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
ok, is the dude marwan talked to, anderson ... is he really a marine, or is he just posing as one?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think he really IS one

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
keeler ain't shiny clean. he's got dirty dudes

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah, at first i thought it was a disguise, but at the end, it seemed like he was an actual marine

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
keeler is expecting him

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
well, the whole thing with McLennan-Forster going to such insane lengths to recover at document

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
if it was just about hiding the fact that a terrorist infiltrated their company, they wouldn;t have gone that far

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
that document is evidence of something much more sinister

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i can't wait till they decode it

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
maybe Gene McLennan wasn’t aware, but that Conlon guy certainly was

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i love how they tried to downplay the document's importance by saying it might not even be anything

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
like "ok audience. forget about this thing"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
" we'll get to it later"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
adn when they decode it it'll be juicy

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
oh fuck yeah

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i hope that we get to follow marwan a little bit. i really felt like what was missing from the s4 plot was a villain you could sink your teeth into

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
particularly in the messy middle section

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
oh i know. and you know what tells me how great a villain he is? besides how great he is...

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
callery's GREAt marwan music

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
hehehehe

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's got those twisted arabic-sounding violins

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah i know, i like it too

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and there's so much they haven't shown us with marwan. he's remained elusive and spare

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
they don't give it all to us right away

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
allowing him to burn out

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
in s1, we really got to know ira gaines

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
he was a well rounded character

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
as in s2, we got to know syed ali

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
liek the past villains, esp in s3 (alas), were too blatant, and they burned through three of them

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think marwans' got some staying power

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
see, i liked the s3 villains

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
ramon and hector were awesome

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
and saunders was awesome

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i guess i liked them a lot too

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i also thought marcus alvers was poretty good too

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
amador was just this slick british dude

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
but i thought that lothaire bluteau brought alvers to life, especially in his final episodes when he's infected with the virus he himself released

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ya, but i wanted to be invested in a continuous villain... a worthy adversary

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah i hear ya

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i think ramon salazar and stephen saunders both qualified as that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ramon was awesome

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i still think about him

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
jack had signifcant history with them both

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
ramon really brought out a lot of the exploration of Jack's Themes

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
man, i'm so glad we got to talk about this today. t/m was going through my mind like a runaway train today

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i could probably write a little paper likening tony and michelle to the nuclear plant meltdown plotline

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah, this episode was pretty much the most significant relationship episode of the season

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
next ep will prolly be much more plot-related. i felt like this was the relationship climax, almost... even though there's still more to come

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
this ep had so much of the nitty-gritty in it

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
they devoted a lot of time to t/m

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
do you think paul raines is gonna bite it?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
nope. i think they're going to save him to made audrey make a choice

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
her conflict is moot if he goes

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yea

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and him coming close to death makes him about as sympathetic as he can get

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
so her coice will be very emotional and very high-stakes for everone invloved

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
choice*

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yeah paul has totally redeemed himself

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
like, choose jack and DUDE... paul laying there close to death is left on his ass? or choose paul and have jack lose another love? choose jack and live with his dark side, and remember the sacrifices paul made

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
choose paul and remember the extraordirarily powerful and exceptional man jack is

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
who saved her life and the life of her father

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yet she won't want to feel indebted

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
maybe audrey will choose herself

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
will she just walk away from both?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
exactly

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
that's were i was going

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
it seems almost inevitable

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack had to eventually, and repeatedly, remind himself to schoose himself

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
forced into solitude time anq timew again1

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i miss kim

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know. she was bound to jack no matter what... and gave him the choiceless love and dedicationt hat pulled him in horrible directions

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
that kind of essential, unavoidable thing that t/m have

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
yup

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i miss her too

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
does anyone know if she's coming back? i mean

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i have no clue

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
jack needs to have something at the end of this all

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
it seems pretty unlikely, but anything could happen

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and they won't kill him without kim, you'd think

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
" meh, let kim find out on her own.. we don't need to see how she reacts"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
like NOT

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i dunno.

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
if jack does die, i imagine it will be the preclock for the final episode

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup. i can't believe i'm emotionally prepared for that

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
if i am, that's gotta mean it's more than possible

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i think all the fans are prepared for the possibility

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
it';s a better alternative than killing tony

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i would hope they would not kill almeida

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
jack has lost a lot of people he cares about

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i don't think the show would end on that note -- tony dying and jack losing yet another confidante and friend

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
it is more likely, based on the thematic arc of the show, for tony to live and jack to die, and the t/m relationship to be the ray of light at the end

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
no, they wouldn't do that/ that's pointless, despairing and too tragic

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think you're right

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
because in a way, perhaps jack's death would be a bit of a mercy, based on the whole idea of "being more comfortable in hell"

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
(i meant that pointless bit about killing tony)

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ya for sure

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
exactly

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
and then audrey's arc would be very complete and satisfying

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i think death is the only avenue the jack character has for truly releasing himself from his dark side

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
loving the warrior

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
living with her husband

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i think so to

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
speaking of dark side.. how about that commando assasination, knife in the neck thing?

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
oh man that got me

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
i was more shocked by the blatant murder of the security guards. yes, they were hurting paul, but they were just security guards.

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i know

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i felt the same way too

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
he's totally on a ruthless mission

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
just like in s3

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
after he killed nina, he became a machine with no more human weakness

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
he was willing to let his best friend's love die if it meant completing his mission

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
yup. you know, it the blackout zone, the very tenuous lid on order has erupted into chaos, and jack is bound by no rules again

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ya totally

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
he is back in that place again

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
and i think that's what audrey saw that bothered her

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
perhaps not the willingness to cause pain

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
but the lack of conflict over doing so

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
i completely agree. she 's smarter and more resiliant than that. she would be conflicted over that deeper darkness

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
ABWY, love you, and for sure i'll ttyl

Kiki Almeida, CTU - Level 3, the unkindest cut of all says:
seeya later

Kat Almeida, CTU; more comfortable in hell? says:
byeee

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